Ontario election

In two days our largest province will vote and below are my thoughts on the election. It is probably fair to say the election has largely been a snoozer. No one has made any proposals that have really jumped out and interest in election seems low. Polls have also been surprisingly static with PCs leading every single poll (I believe last time a party led every single poll in Ontario during an election was 1987, but could be wrong).

In terms of what I think will happen, barring a massive polling miss, even larger than BC 2013, the PCs will win the most seats. Likewise I think a PC majority is extremely likely and for them to fall short would require a last minute shift or virtually every single competitive riding to break against them. Thus in all likelihood Doug Ford will get re-elected with another majority. The more interesting part is the battle for second place. My guess is Liberals come in second in votes, but NDP remains official opposition as their vote more concentrated so that is bad news if in 30s but good news for them if in 20s. For seat predictions, I am going to go with following:

PC 80

NDP 26

OLP 17

Green 1

I also predict Steve DelDuca fails to win his own seat thus is forced to resign on election night. Howarth doesn’t resign on election night, but steps down before year’s end since if after four tries, cannot win, probably time for someone else.

I think main reason for this is neither Howarth or DelDuca are exactly popular and neither has really given voters any good reason to elect them. For Ford, people don’t love him, but asides from your usual types on left who hate any conservative politician, most feel he has done a decent job. Yes he has made some mistakes and has his weaknesses, but feeling is Ontario has had a decent government and now is not the time to risk change. His first two years in office were definitely tumultuous and no doubt prior to the pandemic, many of us thought he would be a one term premier. But I believe the pandemic provided a reset and he used that well. Also firing his chief of staff Dean French was probably the best move. He encouraged Ford to be combative which most voters were not interested in. After dumping him, we saw the softer side of Ford which many people weren’t aware of including myself and were pleasantly surprised. It is often said, unexpected crisis can make or break a politician’s career and that is no more truer than here in Canada. It was what helped Ford recover and puts him on track for a second majority while it was what ended Kenney’s career.

As I do not live in Ontario, I cannot vote there, but I did live there for 10 years (2006-2017) so have a keen interest and as largest province in Canada, who they elect impacts us all. As such I can unlike 2018 where I was very uneasy with idea of Ford becoming premier, this time I fully endorse his re-election. He has not been perfect but has provided a steady hand in these tough times. He has also shown a pragmatic side and to my surprise has not been overly ideological. I also believe both Howarth and DelDuca are offering pie in the sky plans that will cost too much and are not affordable. So even if imperfect and even if not overly exciting, I do believe he is the best choice to govern Ontario for the next four years. I think as UCP and Conservatives chose their new leader, they can learn from him that pragmatism and flexibility works while ideological dogmatism does not. Fact both Ontario and Quebec are on track to re-elect centre-right governments while Alberta, long known as bastion of conservatism is set to elect an NDP government next year is telling. It shows moderate pragmatic conservatism can win in all parts of Canada while dogmatic ideological conservatism is toxic in all provinces, even normally conservative ones.

Once the results are in, I will post a post mortem on them and what it means as can give more detailed understanding on what happened when looking at how various ridings voted. On the issue of handgun freeze yesterday, I totally support that. Won’t cost taxpayers a cent while overtime will reduce number of handguns present in Canada. Fact is handgun ownership has grown at an alarming rate and even if most are law abiding, simple law of averages is more you have of anything, more risk there is. And levels of handgun ownership have risen to levels where government needed to act before it reached tipping point like in US where gun lobby became too powerful and thus nothing could be done. I understand won’t stop all or even most crimes. But we need to avoid developing a gun culture and with reason of hard right we saw with trucker convoy, its time to nip issue in the bud.

4 thoughts on “Ontario election

  1. I agree with you even though I do not think the ONDP is guaranteed to end up in second in terms of seat count. The riding polls from mainstream have been mostly terrible for them and it’s legitimately possible the ONDP loses a ton of their blue collar seats to the PCs and some of their Toronto area seats to the Liberals.On the other hand the riding polls have been kinda favourably for the OLP lately and it’s possible they make enough gains to gain back official opposition tomorrow. In terms of seat count I think the ONDP wins around 20 seats, The OLP around 25, the greens 2 and the PCs 77.


    1. Definitely possible. I just know Liberal vote is much more evenly spread out than NDP which has positives and negatives. Great when ahead thus why even with as little as a 5 point lead as we saw federally, they can win a large majority of seats. But lousy when behind like 2011 federally where got roughly same number of votes as NDP in Ontario, but half as many seats. But agreed OLP could form official opposition. I was more just making my prediction. I do agree though OLP will get more votes than NDP.


  2. I think the key question on who forms Official Opposition lies in the “woke” ridings (i.e. Toronto Centre, Ottawa Centre, St. Paul’s, Spadina-Fort York) where no conservative party ever has a chance and are Liberal-NDP battlegrounds with the PC’s a distant third (or fourth). Did the Liberal policies on guns and their natural viewpoints bring them over?

    In general, the PC’s should hold all the seats they have (or had defected to farther-right parties) except for Ottawa West-Nepean, Eglinton-Lawrence and Oakville (my guess is those go Liberal), and perhaps Cambridge, Don Valley North, Etobicoke-Lakeshore, Kitchener-Conestoga, Kitchener South-Hespeler, Mississauga-Lakeshore, Nepean and Kanata-Carleton (other very anti-populist ridings). Even losing all of those would keep them with a very slim majority. That should be offset by numerous pickup opportunities: I don’t buy that Parry Sound-Muskoka is going Green; they would need a lot of the PC vote to spill off to farther-right parties (at least 10-15%) to create enough of an opening.

    Likely PC pickups: Essex, Niagara Centre, Niagara Falls, Oshawa

    Potential PC pickups: Brampton Centre, Brampton North, Glengarry-Prescott-Russell, Timmins

    Reach opportunities: Brampton East, Humber River-Black Creek, Kiiwetinoong, London West, Mushkegowuk-James Bay, Nickel Belt, St. Catharines, Thunder Bay-Atikokan, Timiskaming-Cochrane, York South-Weston

    I think the ceiling for them is about 90 seats, with the most likely being 80-85. Yes, I do think they will lose some to New Blue in some rural ridings, but those are places where I see the right-wing vote at 60% or more anyway.

    If I were to guess: PC 76, NDP 24, Liberal 23, Green 1.


    1. Sounds fairly reasonable and sort of what I am guessing. My guess is most PC losses to OLP and mostly upper middle class ridings with large numbers who have post secondary degree. For gains, mostly smaller blue collar communities from NDP.


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